NOTAM No weather shown in simulator? Or Instant weather changes?

damian

Developer
Staff member
Other weather add-ons
We have been notified of incompatibility between other weather add-ons causing issues here. Please fully uninstall any other wx-addon to enable ASFS to operate correctly. In some cases, you must manually remove the other weather add-on community folder items, as we have confirmed that at least one weather add-on does not remove this on uninstall, and without removing this, it will block other toolbar add-ons including ASFS.

Note: Several weather add-ons have been found not to uninstall properly when using the normal uninstallation routine. We recommend uninstalling fully, from add/remove programs, or by following the instructions to uninstall fully as provided by the add-on. Then manually verify that it doesn't exist anywhere in the MSFS2020 installation.

Symptoms of having another weather add-on interfering:

- Instant unexpected changing of weather with no smoothing
- Instant switch of weather preset outside of ASFS control
- No clouds/weather depicting in sim at all

We have recently spent hundreds of man-hours troubleshooting with dozens of users who confirmed multiple times that they had no other weather add-ons installed, but after much time, it was discovered that there WAS another weather add-on and removing it resolved all the issues. PLEASE CONFIRM, if you have any of the symptoms above, and have ever had another weather add-on installed, that it is actually removed.

Thank you.
 
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ninerlized

New member
Workaround for ither's NoHandleBar Mod until compatibility is reached:

(see Screenshot: STORM PRESET selected, but no storm depicted -> ASFS working, while Toolbar is visible without handle bar)

0. Go to your community folder containing the no handlebar mod and ASFS
1. Copy ToolBar.css from itherNoHandleBar's mod (html_ui\Pages) to ASFS\html_ui\Pages
2. Open ither-NoHandleBar's layout.json and copy the entry containing "ToolBar.css" with "size" and "date" (between the { } brackets)
3. Open ASFS layout.json and paste the entry after the "ToolBar.html" entry's closing } bracket and the "," (comma).
4. Don't forget to add another "," after the ToolBar.css closing } bracket if there is none.
5. DELETE ither‘s handlebar mod folder from community
 

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Hmm then I gotta enable that mod again when I'm home. I disabled it per support from Damian, but looks like it works so might try it.
 

Bill M

New member
I'm not using any pushback mod. I have live weather active and ASD preset control checked. it also says MSFE connected. But still all I get is clear sky's until I turn MSFS live weather back on. What am I doing wrong?
 

sergeluke

New member
"Toolbar Pushback" (https://flightsim.to/file/15033/toolbar-pushback) prevent ASFS to work properly too !
I hope a solution will be find because it's a very useful mod...
If you have it, just remove it from your community manager and problem solved !
I have been testing Toolbar Pushback Pro, and I don't think it is interfering.

However, I'm constantly finiding that arallel 42's Flow Weather widget constantly shows winds 70 @ 6kts, at the airport where it should be 70 @ 12kts. Is it interpolation, or something else?

KHIO 192053Z 07012G22KT 10SM CLR 19/00 A3003 RMK AO2 SLP168 T01940000 56018, SHARED BY DUPLICATE STATION: KRRK
 

damian

Developer
Staff member
There is surface wind attenuation active. The METAR/ATIS winds are usually for 30' above the airport elevation, which are basically always higher than at the surface. So this may be normal. You may want to check FORCE ATC WIND LOCK feature which also locks wind at 6 knots intentionally (this is an older feature not really useful these days with ASFS except with some legacy type add-ons). The default handling with flight plan auto forces destination weather and ATC is aware of the surface winds which we are setting appropriately.
 

damian

Developer
Staff member
Hi All
I think i might have the same issue. Any pointers on what mod it might be?
Flow looks to be the older version, that is known to not work. Please update and things should work ok. We also have an update coming VERY soon that should resolve the incompatibility issues here. Thank you.
 

Dan320

New member
Flow looks to be the older version, that is known to not work. Please update and things should work ok. We also have an update coming VERY soon that should resolve the incompatibility issues here. Thank you.
Thanks, that was it. Working now!

Cheers
 

Benji421

New member
I have been testing Toolbar Pushback Pro, and I don't think it is interfering.

However, I'm constantly finiding that arallel 42's Flow Weather widget constantly shows winds 70 @ 6kts, at the airport where it should be 70 @ 12kts. Is it interpolation, or something else?

KHIO 192053Z 07012G22KT 10SM CLR 19/00 A3003 RMK AO2 SLP168 T01940000 56018, SHARED BY DUPLICATE STATION: KRRK
I was talking about the free version of Toolbar Pushback which is older and apparently not coded the same way as the Pro version. I add this comment just to avoid any misanderstanding between the two softwares. I'm glad that the payware version is not an issue with ASFS.
 

sergeluke

New member
There is surface wind attenuation active. The METAR/ATIS winds are usually for 30' above the airport elevation, which are basically always higher than at the surface. So this may be normal. You may want to check FORCE ATC WIND LOCK feature which also locks wind at 6 knots intentionally (this is an older feature not really useful these days with ASFS except with some legacy type add-ons). The default handling with flight plan auto forces destination weather and ATC is aware of the surface winds which we are setting appropriately.
Thank you for the response. I made sure FORCE ATC WIND LOCK is off (never used it), so the stubborn 6kts is concerning. It doesn’t change even beyond 30’ AGL. I’m certain this bug can be worked out, just at the moment ASFS is not fully ironed out yet. We should have 12kts side winds with ASFS if native MSFS has it in METAR.
 

timothyj6767

New member
I dont use any of those mods, have live weather off, clear sky is selected ASFS is on..but Im getting no weather injected into the sim,and I made a new empty community folder and took my old Community folder gave it a backup name..but no weather
 

alehead

New member
It would appear that FSUIPC may have a negative effect on injection. At least one person in another thread confirmed this to me (currently only by PM, I asked him to post it in the thread, so that others may profit from the information)...

Andrew
 

mmcmah

Active member
It would appear that FSUIPC may have a negative effect on injection. At least one person in another thread confirmed this to me (currently only by PM, I asked him to post it in the thread, so that others may profit from the information)...

Andrew
That would be a big problem, as other add-ons require FSUIPC. P2ATC is one. I use FSUIPC and still get weather injected.
 
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alehead

New member
What addons require FSUIPC in MSFS, apart from P2ATC? Which version as well? There always used to be 2 versions, the freeware and payware variants...
 

mmcmah

Active member
What addons require FSUIPC in MSFS, apart from P2ATC? Which version as well? There always used to be 2 versions, the freeware and payware variants...
The two that I use are P2ATC and Flight Simulator First Officer (FSFO). I have the payware version of FSUIPC, but I don't think there are two separate versions of the program.
 
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