Visibility

maxhades

New member
Hi folks

I know the standard vis. in ASN is max 150sm and min 75sm. It seems a bit too high. The problee you can get some blurries at the horizont . So my question is what is the best and acurate visibility within asn? A found a big diffrent between as 2012 and asn about visibility? So that means 40sm minimum in as 2012 is not the same as in asn?!

Thx
 

maxam

Beta Team Member
ASN shouldn't create the "blurries", what is your current Max_Lod_Radius set to in the FSX.cfg? If it is set to the default of 4.5 try increasing it to 5.5 or 6.5.
 

maxhades

New member
thanks! I know the blurries come from LOD 4.5 in far distance. Is 5.5 a big performance hit? and i am not sure but the blurries on the horizont is normal iguess! so i have two options! set lod higher or limit the visibility via ASN!
 

maxam

Beta Team Member
It's all dependant on your system, you could add the edits below to see how they perform. You can limit ASN visibility but be aware the default settings are calculated by the dev's and are the most realistic.
Can you post a screenshot so we could have a closer look at what you are experiencing. Also post your log.txt from the tools tab in ASN.
Do you use DX9 or DX10 preview mode in FSX?
And do you use nVidia Inspector if you are running with an nVidia card?

[BUFFERPOOLS]
BufferPools=0 // To be used with higher end video cards

[JOBSCHEDULER]
AffinityMask=14

[GRAPHICS]
TEXTURE_MAX_LOAD=2048 //Can be as high as 4096
HIGHMEMFIX=1
ForceWindowedVSync=1

[Display]
TEXTURE_BANDWIDTH_MULT=120
UPPER_FRAMERATE_LIMIT=0
WideViewAspect=True
TextureMaxLoad=30

[Main]
ProcSpeed=19119 //I use this to gauge how well FSX will run... Do not enter this value it is calculated when cfg is built or numbers are deleted
FIBER_FRAME_TIME_FRACTION=0.12
DisablePreload=1

[SCENERY]
LENSFLARE=0
DAWN_DUSK_SMOOTHING=1
IMAGE_COMPLEXITY=5
SmallPartRejectRadius=1
ObjectsToBatchPerFrame=50
MAX_ASYNC_BATCHING_JOBS=4

[TrafficManager]
AirlineDensity=18
GADensity=2
FreewayDensity=0
ShipsAndFerriesDensity=0
LeisureBoatsDensity=0
IFROnly=0
AIRPORT_SCENERY_DENSITY=2

[TERRAIN]
LOD_RADIUS=6.500000
MESH_COMPLEXITY=100
MESH_RESOLUTION=23
TEXTURE_RESOLUTION=28
AUTOGEN_DENSITY=3
DETAIL_TEXTURE=1
WATER_EFFECTS=4
 
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maxhades

New member
Ok here we go

My system
i7 2600 3.4ghz up to 3.8ghz
8 gig Ram
Geforce GTX 660
Windows 7

DX 9 and filters by FSX

ASN.cfg
[ASN Settings]
CurrOptionsFile=FSXOptions
StationFilesNeedUpdating=0
StartupWindowPosition.X=390
StartupWindowPosition.Y=162
StartupWindowSize.Width=900
StartupWindowSize.Height=726
WxConfigurationStartDocked=1
MapStartDocked=1
ConditionsStartDocked=1
BriefingStartDocked=1
SearchStartDocked=1
SettingsStartDocked=1
ConditionsWindowPosition.X=497
ConditionsWindowPosition.Y=151
ConditionsWindowSize.Width=685
ConditionsWindowSize.Height=707
FlightPlanStartDocked=1
DebugStartDocked=1
MapWindowPosition.X=390
MapWindowPosition.Y=125
MapWindowSize.Width=881
MapWindowSize.Height=672
[ASN Dates]
LastTimeWeatherDownloaded=02/13/2014 22:26:44
BackupLastTimeWeatherDownloaded=02/13/2014 22:26:44
[Map Options]
refLat=52,8958966837301
refLon=15,0302427109523
mapRange=437
ShowWinds=False
WindsLevel=340
ShowWindShear=True
ShowVisibility=True
ShowMetReps=True
ShowOtherAircraft=False
ShowPrecipitation=True
RadarMode=0

Options\FSXOptions.cfg
[General options]
FSVersion=FSX
[Visibility options]
MaximumUpperVisibilitySM=60
MaximumVisibilitySM=50
DisableHazeLayer=1
[Cloud options]
MinimumCloudDrawDistance=90
MaximumCloudDrawDistance=90
MaximumCloudLayers=5
[Wind options (and effects)]
WakeTurbulenceStrength=20
[Audio options]
EnabledVoiceSets=Canada-1,Germany-1,Sweden-East-1,USA-East-1,USA-Mid-1,USA-West-1

as_srv btstrp.txt
CheckPoint 1
CheckPoint 2
CheckPoint 3

as_srv log.txt
09:19:41:0977-check point 1... passed
09:19:42:0978-check point 2... passed
09:19:42:0978-check point 3... passed
09:19:43:0980-check point 4... passed
09:19:44:0005-check point 5... passed
09:19:44:0029-check point 6... passed
09:19:44:0077-check point 7... passed

ASN_Log
09:23:51:0588-Verifying Active Sky Next for FSX License
09:23:51:0599-AppPath = C:\Program Files (x86)\HiFi\ASNext_FSX
09:23:51:0599-AppDataPath = C:\Users\Haider\AppData\Roaming\Hifi\ASNFSX\
09:23:51:0604-FSXPath = C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\
09:23:51:0605-FSXFlightPlansPath = C:\Users\Haider\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files
09:23:51:0606-FSXAppDataPath = C:\Users\Haider\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX
09:23:51:0617-Unable to copy module components: Der Prozess kann nicht auf die Datei "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\as_srv\as_audio.exe" zugreifen, da sie von einem anderen Prozess verwendet wird.
09:23:53:0452-Wx Station Database loaded: 9960 station(s)
09:23:53:0558-NDB station list initialized!
09:23:53:0629-VOR station list initialized!
09:23:53:0696-Weather station list initialized!
09:23:53:0702-Airport station list initialized!
09:23:53:0761-Loading previously loaded weather...
09:23:54:0102-Map image provider initialized!
09:23:54:0699-SimConnect found and initialized
09:23:54:0738-Weather read complete
09:23:54:0787-SimConnect SP2 instantiated!
09:23:55:0045-Current Version = 1.0.5128.28783 / Latest Official Version = 1.0.5099.6239
09:23:55:0094-Downloading USA airmets-sigmets for 14.02.2014 (08Z)...
09:23:55:0095-...using Primary Server...
09:23:55:0323-FSX connection established!
09:23:57:0229-Using Client ID: A93DB997184A7C594BCE14D790B6CF80
09:23:58:0841-USA Met/Rep Data Received...
09:23:58:0893-Downloading international sigmets for 14.02.2014 (08Z)...
09:23:58:0894-...using Primary Server...
09:23:58:0894-Using Client ID: A93DB997184A7C594BCE14D790B6CF80
09:23:59:0781-International Sigmet Data Received...
09:23:59:0836-Downloading global weather data for 14.02.2014 (08Z)...
09:23:59:0836-...using Primary Server...
09:23:59:0836-Using Client ID: A93DB997184A7C594BCE14D790B6CF80

Registry Settings:
Install_Path = C:\Program Files (x86)\HiFi\ASNext_FSX
License = 37633A-******-******-******
FSXPath = C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Microsoft Flight Simulator X\
FSXMyDocsPath = C:\Users\Haider\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files
FSXAppDataPath = C:\Users\Haider\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\FSX
FSXLastPlanPath = C:\Users\Haider\Documents\Flight Simulator X Files


At fl 60000. Normaly i fly at fl 30000-40000. And when i set the visivility to standard in ASN you can see those blurries too!
Always flyinf IFR and with heavy addons like PMDG! FTX Global and many more! Frames limited inside fsx to 22!

And what does it means the default ist calculated by the devs?? I mean 75 and 150 sm flying ifr is not that realistic or?

2014-2-14_9-23-23-967.jpg
 
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maxam

Beta Team Member
I can't see any blurries in your pic, doesn't mean they are not there. What I meant was that ASN is coded to make visibility changes based on altitude and ambient conditions, changing max visibility does not change the fact that FSX will draw graphics outside your viewing distance so you may see the terrain as being blurry when it comes into view.

You could make changes to your FSX.cfg and use nVidia Inspector, I have links to a few good guides in my sig, there's some good information contained within them.
 

maxam

Beta Team Member
Yes it is normal. I will post a pic and you can see how FSX displays the terrain on my PC. Next time you fly in a real AC look at the terrain out to the horizon and you will see for yourself how well MS did at depicting visibility degradation.
 

maxhades

New member
I am not sure if my system can handle lod 6.5 with all those addons. I feel 150 sm is a realy high setting and you can found this in real life not very often! But i will give them a try!
 

maxam

Beta Team Member
I have bumped my LOD up to 6.5 since I began running DX-10. I am using Nvidia Inspector as well. Here is my terrain:

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maxhades

New member
I am sure some addon airports doesnt work with dx 10 tweak! And i am sure on long hauls with pmdg and lod 6.5 i got problems. Maximum is 5.5 but better stay standard! So the only thing you can do is to limit the visibility down to 60-70sm. And what i found out is the min. Visibility on ground is complitly diffrent to as 2012. Example: 75 sm in ASN is like 35sm in AS 2012! How that?

My tweaks are only
Affinitymask
Highmemfix
Fiber frame 0.15

At dallas forth with pmdg and asn got on bad days only 10-12 frames! Thats crazy! So lod 5.5 is maybe killer for my system! And it is not bad at all!

Maybe ftx global could be the problem?
 
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Mephic

New member
@up please list those addon airports which does not work and I will forward them to SteveFX.

I have some addon airports and sometimes you just need to add lightfields. Don't see any other issues. Plus you have legacy slider. DX10SceneryFixer fixed 99% of Dx10 problems. Trust me. And looks UBER cool with Active Sky Next and FSX Shade.
 

maxhades

New member
I ll give them a try! Thx. But dx 10 doesnt solve the problem with the blurried terrain on the horizont. I remember as 2012 with max. Visibility 60 sm the problem was solved. In ASN standard is 150 sm and i know from other threads some people report this problem when you leave 150 sm. Visibility seems complitly diffrent in ASN!
 

pete_auau

Member
how can i get almost 0 visability when it's foggy outside, just was curious what settings i could change.
Do a search for visibility less than whatever you want in asn search option. If none availably than don't start asn just start fsx as normal and in the fsx settings in the weather section put whatever you want for visibility and cloud cover etc
 
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