Active skyFS/MSFS Live weather

E

Erik31X

New member
Thanks for bring us Active sky to MSFS2020! I just flew from oslo to Munich and it was repported to be overcast clouds and rain, when i got there i got few clouds and clear skyes over EDDM... Something is not working correctly in Active sky FS. I switch to Live weather in MSFS and got Overcast clouds + rain!

Please i hope you guys can fix this because weather in Active sky was WAAY off
 
E

edpatino

Member
I flew in South America, specifically from SVMI (Maiquetia) to SVHG (Higuerote) and have to say ASFS represented quite well the current weather conditions at the two airports, with several cloud layers at 1,000/3,000 and 8,000 as reported by the SVMI METAR. The only complaint would be that those clouds are too flat and need to get some more depth or more development in height. Hopefully this is possible with the current status of the sim.
 
M

mmcmah

Active member
I flew from SKBO to SKCL last night, time shifting to the morning and it was glorious. The various layers of clouds, combined with the fact that one layer was low hanging in the valleys (and weren't cumulus clouds) was simply amazing.
 
V

vgbaron

Testing Team
Erik31X said:
Thanks for bring us Active sky to MSFS2020! I just flew from oslo to Munich and it was repported to be overcast clouds and rain, when i got there i got few clouds and clear skyes over EDDM... Something is not working correctly in Active sky FS. I switch to Live weather in MSFS and got Overcast clouds + rain!
Click to expand...
That's a long flight. When did you get the last report. Perhaps the weather changed? I've had several flights where the destination weather changed enroute. I keep my comm radio tuned to 122.02 so I can get current destination weather.
 
M

mat18590

New member
edpatino said:
I flew in South America, specifically from SVMI (Maiquetia) to SVHG (Higuerote) and have to say ASFS represented quite well the current weather conditions at the two airports, with several cloud layers at 1,000/3,000 and 8,000 as reported by the SVMI METAR. The only complaint would be that those clouds are too flat and need to get some more depth or more development in height. Hopefully this is possible with the current status of the sim.
Click to expand...
I think the clouds are flat because the information from provider was this, I see clouds high I don’t think it is asfs problem
 
G

glc100

Member
I have a question. There has been some comments on other forums that METARs do not include cloud coverage above 5000 feet and hence a METAR based app will be limited in cloud depiction extent. However METAR in Navigraph routinely include cloud coverage above 5000 feet. For example KBWI now is showing KBWI 212254Z 31008KT 10SM FEW070 SCT230 BKN250 11/M02 A2997 RMK AO2 SLP149 T01111022, Would Active Sky MSFS depict those higher cloud levels in preset mode? When I loaded at KBWI using live weather in MSFS there were only scattered cumulus clouds at about 5000 feet, ie ignoring the higher cloud levels despite this METAR. Perhaps someone with the program could use Historical Weather to check this.
 
E

edpatino

Member
mat18590 said:
I think the clouds are flat because the information from provider was this, I see clouds high I don’t think it is asfs problem
Click to expand...
Unfortunately, it seems that it is. There's a video in YT showing the flat clouds compared to those using the MSFS Live Weather system and the difference can be easily seen. But again, I like very much the amount of cloud layers that I saw today during my flight compared to the default MSFS weather. If something can be done on the ASFS side to improve the depth of the clouds in general, it will be great. Let's see what the developers will have to say...
 
E

edpatino

Member
glc100 said:
I have a question. There has been some comments on other forums that METARs do not include cloud coverage above 5000 feet and hence a METAR based app will be limited in cloud depiction extent. However METAR in Navigraph routinely include cloud coverage above 5000 feet. For example KBWI now is showing KBWI 212254Z 31008KT 10SM FEW070 SCT230 BKN250 11/M02 A2997 RMK AO2 SLP149 T01111022, Would Active Sky MSFS depict those higher cloud levels in preset mode? When I loaded at KBWI using live weather in MSFS there were only scattered cumulus clouds at about 5000 feet, ie ignoring the higher cloud levels despite this METAR. Perhaps someone with the program could use Historical Weather to check this.
Click to expand...
Please check this site, and you'll often see METAR reports above 5,000 ft:
https://metar-taf.com
 
V

vgbaron

Testing Team
edpatino said:
Unfortunately, it seems that it is. There's a video in YT showing the flat clouds compared to those using the MSFS Live Weather system and the difference can be easily seen. But again, I like very much the amount of cloud layers that I saw today during my flight compared to the default MSFS weather. If something can be done on the ASFS side to improve the depth of the clouds in general, it will be great. Let's see what the developers will have to say...
Click to expand...
Ed - I'm pretty sure those are stratus layers and they are flat. MSFS doesn't do stratus much and substitutes cumulus which are more dramatic but completely unrealistic. If you could give a link to the video I can double check but all thoise I have seen complaining about flat clouds are talking about stratus. ASFS provides several different cloud types and layers.
 
E

Erik31X

New member
vgbaron said:
That's a long flight. When did you get the last report. Perhaps the weather changed? I've had several flights where the destination weather changed enroute. I keep my comm radio tuned to 122.02 so I can get current destination weather.
Click to expand...
Hello, the flight time was 2hours and 15 min, i updated after landing in EDDM but got the same weather :S clouds was very flat just over EDDM it was clear weather no clouds just few around the airport, it was reported rain but was no rain there and not after i updated after landing. weather was still the same when i got to the airport it was reported to be bad weather for over 3 hours.

I will do a new flight from EDDM to ENGM and now they have reported to be Overcast at EDDM, https://metar-taf.com/EDDM 0750LT
 
Last edited:
P

Powie

New member
I think this was a bad session, at the end we have realised that MS Live Weather was again on, and we think this has destroyed ASFS weather.. ..
Will keep an eye on this switch
 
E

edpatino

Member
vgbaron said:
Ed - I'm pretty sure those are stratus layers and they are flat. MSFS doesn't do stratus much and substitutes cumulus which are more dramatic but completely unrealistic. If you could give a link to the video I can double check but all thoise I have seen complaining about flat clouds are talking about stratus. ASFS provides several different cloud types and layers.
Click to expand...
This is the video that shows similar results to those I'm having with ASFS:
 
V

vgbaron

Testing Team
Don't know what he was doing but that's not the results I get. The MS clouds are "cinematic" - they looked nothing like the real image but they are big and fluffy. He never showed the correct result but AS did look more like real - which was flat and gray. .I put this one in the list of another clueless streamer. Listening to his nonstop patter he really doesn't know what he is talking about.
 
M

mat18590

New member
vgbaron said:
Don't know what he was doing but that's not the results I get. The MS clouds are "cinematic" - they looked nothing like the real image but they are big and fluffy. He never showed the correct result but AS did look more like real - which was flat and gray. .I put this one in the list of another clueless streamer. Listening to his nonstop patter he really doesn't know what he is talking about.
Click to expand...
I agree with you
 
E

edpatino

Member
vgbaron said:
Don't know what he was doing but that's not the results I get. The MS clouds are "cinematic" - they looked nothing like the real image but they are big and fluffy. He never showed the correct result but AS did look more like real - which was flat and gray. .I put this one in the list of another clueless streamer. Listening to his nonstop patter he really doesn't know what he is talking about.
Click to expand...
Well, I would only say the developers should take into account any observations and criticism, being them good or bad, and continue striving to improve the product, which undoubtedly has a lot of potential due to the vast experience HiFi has in the field or weather simulation.
 
V

vgbaron

Testing Team
edpatino said:
Well, I would only say the developers should take into account any observations and criticism, being them good or bad, and continue striving to improve the product, which undoubtedly has a lot of potential due to the vast experience HiFi has in the field or weather simulation.
Click to expand...
I agree completely. If we can educate the streamers to do a proper comparison then it becomes just a case of personal preference. But, in this case, I believe he was setting up for AS to fail through unfamiliarity.
 
EuroTexan

EuroTexan

New member
A prime example of the "Streamers Mousewheel". The streamers are always in a rush to lead the pack with material, and the closer to product releases they can land generates more channel revenue, etc. I have my own trusted sources for information and discussion with regards to simulation products. I do enjoy some streams, but 40 years of experience in simulation you know how to spot a product that provides exceptional value and capabilities without a bunch of YouTube noise.
 
D

davidtsw1906

Member
I've come to similar conclusions. Other than the abrupt weather changes issue and a few small things, I've had a very good experience with AS so far. But I only now start understanding how things work and how to use this program properly. I wouldn't dare to do a review video of it any time soon. Unless my income depended on how quickly I can push that video out ;)
 
Last edited:
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top